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Machomissive2
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First locktober and I used to be able to last as long as I wanted and still go for multiple after (high drive). I knew it would decrease my ability to last but 3 ruined in 5 minutes was not my expectations

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Posted : 22/10/2020 9:01 am
subhubphx
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Posted by: @machomissive2

I knew it would decrease my ability to last but 3 ruined in 5 minutes was not my expectations

It's not often talked about but it's the classic conundrum for orgasm control/semen retention/chastity cages.  The chaste male who is in a constant state or arousal and denial, is understandably horny as fuck.  Then when stimulation occurs it's like opening a bottle of club soda for the first time.  Depending on the folks involved, it's either a known issue and there is a conscious desire to turn the man into a fast comer for a variety of reasons known only to the Mistress/Keyholder, or .... or it is something that gets discovered along the way and the couple adjusts according to their preferences.

There is even a fetish of (supposedly) of purposely using a small, small chastity cage in order to reduce the size of the man's penis and to purposely make him a premature ejaculator so they can then have sex with other guys ... and i wouldn't be their fault.  Clearly any woman that would purposely do that is a cretin.  

In the end, it needs to fit into a category of "it works for them" ... both of them.

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Posted : 22/10/2020 10:01 am
mstara
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Posted by: @subhubphx
Posted by: @machomissive2

I knew it would decrease my ability to last but 3 ruined in 5 minutes was not my expectations

There is even a fetish of (supposedly) of purposely using a small, small chastity cage in order to reduce the size of the man's penis and to purposely make him a premature ejaculator 

Surely that is a myth or something that is written in erotic novels/stories?
I can't believe that using a very small cage would achieve either of those things.
Happy to be corrected if someone has first hand knowledge.

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Posted : 22/10/2020 11:08 am
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subhubphx
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Posted by: @mstara

Surely that is a myth or something that is written in erotic novels/stories?
I can't believe that using a very small cage would achieve either of those things.

You know, we never really know what is true and what isn't on the internet.  The thing I saw was some page promoting the fetish as if it were a thing.  Is it a thing?  I don't know.  It very well could be They were saying that those tiny, tiny cages that almost push the man's penis inside his body are the ultimate goal and to reach the goal, they should systematically use smaller and smaller cages until the goal is achieved.  It was disturbing because the woman was doing these things to her boyfriend without his knowledge and consent in order to justify fucking other men.  It would another matter all together if he was aware and agreeable but part of the purported goal (real or imagined) for this particular cretin of a woman was to not only justify taking on other men, but to also ruin her boyfriends life, because at the very end of the "lesson", the final act is to leave him.  Guh!  What is wrong with people.  

I'm with you MsTara, this can't be a thing.

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Posted : 22/10/2020 11:26 am
spinpole2001
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Posted by: @subhubphx
Posted by: @machomissive2

I knew it would decrease my ability to last but 3 ruined in 5 minutes was not my expectations

It's not often talked about but it's the classic conundrum for orgasm control/semen retention/chastity cages.  The chaste male who is in a constant state or arousal and denial, is understandably horny as fuck.  Then when stimulation occurs it's like opening a bottle of club soda for the first time.  Depending on the folks involved, it's either a known issue and there is a conscious desire to turn the man into a fast comer for a variety of reasons known only to the Mistress/Keyholder, or .... or it is something that gets discovered along the way and the couple adjusts according to their preferences.

There is even a fetish of (supposedly) of purposely using a small, small chastity cage in order to reduce the size of the man's penis and to purposely make him a premature ejaculator so they can then have sex with other guys ... and i wouldn't be their fault.  Clearly any woman that would purposely do that is a cretin.  

In the end, it needs to fit into a category of "it works for them" ... both of them.

Sounds to me like some cuck porn stuff but who knows

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Posted : 22/10/2020 2:48 pm
subhubphx
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@spinpole2001  You're probably right 

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Posted : 22/10/2020 3:06 pm
Headtrip
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Its pretty commonly talked about on Fetlife and CM, with enough pictures that I believe penis reduction is, indeed, a valid fetish.

Mostly it appeals to men/couples into humiliation play.  Some actually like it. I cant imagine a guy wouldnt be aware of it as it takes time in progressively tighter cages.  In almost all cases I have heard of, the guy returns to size some days or weeks after release.

Chastity has so many cross fetshes it is scary.  BC they used to turn my stomach.  But now, for some locked reason, I can at least understand.

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Posted : 23/10/2020 2:47 pm
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Brian
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My use of small cages, about an inch, over several years with back to back stints as long as 6 months continuous didn't result in any size change. That said, erection firmness did suffer for a few days after but returned to normal. I somehow feel those pics of small dicks are setup to tell a fantasy story. That said, I could be wrong. Maybe several years might have some effect. 

One thing I do notice with a lot of T&D over extended periods is it becomes harder to release when its called for. In my case its definitely mental so I'd imagine it would be different for different people.

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Posted : 23/10/2020 10:00 pm
mstara
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So following on from my initial dismissal of the statements about small chastity cages reducing penis size I thought I’d actually do some research to see if I could find anything that would substantiate this or prove it false.

Not surprisingly there is very little by way of authenticated medical research on this issue but there are some interesting articles that reference this question and can be taken or left as the reader desires.

Firstly however, it is clear that a man’s penis does shrink over time. There are a number of common causes as far as I’m able to read.

  1. A less heathy lifestyle. This will potentially reduce the size of your dick. Lifestyle choices like smoking, little exercise, eating lots of meat and dairy products and being overweight can all be negative influencers on how big you can become when erect. All these things can narrow the archeries and, as we know, to get an erection you need good blood flow into the organ – ergo less blood, smaller or less hard erection.
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/za/blog/all-about-sex/201101/the-rare-truth-about-penis-size
  2. Medical conditions. Men who have had Prostate surgery to remove the gland due to cancer may experience a loss of size. In fact, it happens in about 70 per cent of men who have had this surgery. Experts don't know exactly what causes this to happen, but one theory is that a man may experience muscle contraction after the surgery that pull their member farther into their body.
    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/320883#:~:text=Research%20shows%20men%20who%20have,prostatectomy%20experienced%20some%20penis%20shrinkage .
    Certain medications can also lead to a shrinking penis, including:-
    Adderall, typically prescribed for attention deficit hypersensitivity disorder (ADHD),
    Antidepressants and antihypertensives,
    Avodart (dutasteride), used to treat an enlarged prostate,
    Proscar (finasteride), used to treat both an enlarged prostate and hair loss.
  3. Getting older. A man’s body is full of testosterone when he is in his teens and 20s, however once he is past 40 the levels will decrease substantially, which can cause changes to the penis size. The above will add to the effects and so the healthier he keeps himself the less this will occur. Some men will also experience permanent shrinkage as their skins loses its elasticity and healthy cells are replaced by collagen.
    https://hellocaremail.com.au/penis-size-decrease-age/#:~:text=Because%20the%20penis%20is%20attached,libido%20and%20also%20penis%20size .
  4. Peyronie's disease. This is a condition that results from scar tissue on the penis causing curvature. In some cases it can also result in permanent size reduction. Unfortunately, there isn’t a cure but early treatment can slow the development of the condition.
    https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/peyronies-disease/symptoms-causes/syc-20353468

These are the naturally occurring circumstances that might cause a penis to become shorter.

Compression of the penile tissues, normally associated with using a cage that is too small for the penis, could cause damage, but there wasn’t any medical evidence that I could find to support this. There was medical conjecture such as this from a Doctor in Washington State.
https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/209960/can-locking-my-penis-in-a-chastity-device-cause-longterm-damage/

However, in the same way that having an unhealthy life style can cause a lack of blood flow to the erectile tissue can cause muscle wastage and shrinkage, it is logical that using a cage that is too small would have the same effect over a period of time.

It isn’t clear as to how much would be lost though. Some men who have had prostrate surgery report losing anywhere between half to three quarters of an inch whilst other reports suggest it could be as much as 2 inches.

There is a case for disuse atrophy, which is when the penis isn’t able to have erections which causes a wasting away in both structure and function of penile smooth muscle and erectile tissues. The poor blood flow resulting from disuse produces a state of poor oxygen levels in the penile tissues that, in turn, can induce scarring, resulting in a loss of penile length and girth and negatively affecting one’s ability to achieve an erection.
  https://healthdoc13.wordpress.com/tag/disuse-atrophy/
Recovery from this is disputed and appears to depend on the amount of time that the penis has been confined. Most reports suggest that it would take years to reach this state and even then, a longish period of ‘normal’ erection activity would restore most, if not all, the previous dimensions – dependant of the age and general state of health.

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Posted : 24/10/2020 7:04 am
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AandM
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@mstara  Thank you for putting in the work to separate fact from fiction. 

Your efforts are in the true spirit of what we really like about this site.

 

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Posted : 26/10/2020 1:47 pm
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subhubphx
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Posted by: @aandm

Your efforts are in the true spirit of what we really like about this site.

I will second that notion, enthusiastically!  

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Posted : 26/10/2020 1:51 pm
Twolf
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@subhubphx

I think it might be a thing.  We were using the Cellmate, but it got hacked. Luckily I was able to remove it before the servers went down.  So, locktober came to an end early for many people.  So I bought two more cages, one a steel version with an optional catheter, the other was the Nub.  I experimented with both for a few days off and on.

As of a couple hours ago my wonderful key holder decided it was time to lock back up again.  I did remind her that these cages haven’t been long term tested at all, she said don’t worry, I know and we’ll be extra cautious.  She let me choose which one to wear. When I chose the Nub she was surprised and asked why.  I thought about it a second and told her it made me feel extremely kept by her.  I also told her that I was kind of interested and attracted to the risk factor.  I had to clarify that it wasn’t the risk of a tight cage so much as it was from the risk of shrinkage.

she asked a few more questions, ones that really made me take stock of how I felt about it.  And we too don’t know if the shrinking thing is true or not.  But.. I do know that she has taken an interest in it and wants to find out.

so... on one hand i’m Afraid what that might mean... but on the other hand, I’m leaking already. So ... yeah.. I think it might actually be a thing.

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Posted : 26/10/2020 4:49 pm
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subhubphx
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Posted by: @twolf

so... on one hand i’m Afraid what that might mean... but on the other hand, I’m leaking already. So ... yeah.. I think it might actually be a thing.

Thanks for the update.  Trust me, I'm not rooting for shrinkage so, I am eagerly awaiting the results of your unscientific testing.   

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Posted : 26/10/2020 5:09 pm
Twolf
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@subhubphx

I wish I could say how long the testing my be. And my key holder also mentioned wondering how long it might take before we knew something.

i said a couple of hours... she wasn’t buying it though.  Had to try, the damn thing has me feeling like I’ve been locked a week already! Surprisingly comfortable though, I really should mention that. I’m very surprised.

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Posted : 26/10/2020 5:16 pm
Emma
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This was a great read. Thank you!

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Posted : 27/10/2020 8:31 am
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